April 7, 2010

  • This dagger that I have

     

    My father was a 50 cal.machinegunner assigned to the "Rainbow Division" of the 42nd Infantry during WW2. In April of 1945 the 42nd liberated Dachau prison camp and Dad's squadron commander took him and two other machinegunners thru the back gate to set up emplacements.

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    The back gate at Dachau, taken by my Dad. 

    Since the Nazi SS Officers and guards knew the American Army was only a day away, most had already fled leaving just a handful of enlisted personnel behind and they quickly surrendered.

    Most of the activity that day was taking place at the front gate, so Dad took a walk around checking things out and found an abandoned staff car a couple hundred feet from the gate. On looking inside he found a Nazi SS banner and an officers dress dagger. He wrapped the dagger in the banner, stuck them in his knapsack and carried them the rest of his time in Europe, and eventually back home when he returned.

    For 50 years the pair were kept in my mothers cedar chest and were passed to me when my father died in 1995. I've done a lot of research on Google and at Johnsons Reference Library and found that this is not an SS officers dagger, it is a 2nd Model Luftwaffe (air force) officers dagger.

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    Daggers like this one with the double etched Emil Voos blades were only issued to the highest ranking Luftwaffe officers.

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    But Dachau was ran by the Army, and they had their own very distinctive edged weapons issued to them! Why would an Air Force officers dagger be in one of the staff cars they tried to escape in???

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    Well, it was back to Google and the answer turned out to be pretty simple. There was a Luftwaffe officer at Dachau when the Americans arrived. And not just any officer, it was the commander of the Luftwaffe, Hermann Goering!

    When Hitler went into the bunker towards the end and said that all was lost, the war was over, Goering declared himself Fuhrer!

    Upon hearing this, Hitler had him placed under house arrest at Dachau, which was near Goerings home in Bavaria.

    Earlier in the war Goering had been instrumental in the founding of the SS and was held in very high regard by the commandant and SS guards at at Dachau. Needless to say, house arrest rules for him were almost none-he dined with the officers, slept in their quarters, and was even allowed to carry small arms to protect himself from the real prisoners at the camp.

    The night before the Americans arrived, Goering and the SS officers fled the camp altho he was later recaptured by American forces and eventually sentenced to death after the war.

    But, the night that they were scrambling for their lives, did the staff car run out of gas? In their haste to find something else to escape in, did Goering overlook his dagger lying in the backseat??

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    Such a small thing would have meant nothing when you're in fear for your life!!

    Any "serious" collectors of "The Edged Weapons of The Third Reich" interested???

     

     

Comments (38)

  • excellent story, so cool! 

  • Sorry, I'm not a collector, but I found the story extremely interesting.  I plan to share it with my daughter on her next visit home, as she visited Dachau with a group from her college during their trip to Europe.  Have a great weekend!

  • Now THAT is REALLY cool!!

  • Amazing. Definitely something to hold on to. Or put in a museum somewhere. 

  • I can relate to this. During those years that you mentioned at the start of this blog, my father was a fourteen or fifteen-year old guerrilla fighting the Japanese in the war in the Pacific, specifically, here in the Philippines. What valuable memorabilias. You are fortunate to have them with you. Thanks for sharing them here at xanga.

  • my dad died in 1995 also. He was in Belgium,France and Germany paratrooper Army -he was in the 82nd but I guess they were all 101st when they got to Europe

  • This is an amazing story. What vauable keepsake!

  • Wow, that's amazing to have a piece of history :D . My history teacher has a piece of the old Berlin Wall, I think that's fascinating.

  • What an interesting peice of history.

  • The Dachau gate picture gave me chills! Very cool dagger! Glad you still have it. Thanks for sharing this with us!

  • I'm not a history buff or anything but I enjoyed your post. Making history personal brings it home to me. Thanks

  • Even if it wasn't Goering's, it's still a pretty cool relic to have, and it's great that you have the history of how it came into your dad's possession. 

  • Wow! That is so cool! 

  • Bud, awesome story. 

  • @buddly47 - Zeiss Ikon made excellent lenses. Wikipedia has a picture very similar to yours: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KZDachau1945.jpg. Might be guys your dad knew in the photo.

    Wikipedia indicates that Goering was at Bechtesgaden when he was arrested by the Nazis, and taken to Schloss Mautendorf, which is in Austria. He surrendered in Bavaria, no place specified in any of the sites I found; one article indicated he surrendered in Austria. I couldn't find anything linking him to Dachau. If he was there, it was only a few days.

  • Amazing! What a phenomenal story. To be at the liberation of Dachau, must have been an experience he could not appreciate fully until much later when the full scope of the terrors committed there came to light.

  • @buddly47 - I say again, check old photos and films of Goerring. There must be one where he was wearing a ceremonial dagger.

  • @Bricker59 - I've pretty much done all that, Brick. Can't find any hard proof, tho. I have dad's military records and copies of all his accomendations and his medals (purple heart and bronze star with oak leaf clusters) but proof that the dagger was Goerings is non-existant. It's just putting two and two together. He was the only Luftwaffe officer interred there.

  • @Roadkill_Spatula - I've never been there or seen the gate, but dad carried an old Zeiss Ikon camera with him in Europe and took a lot of pics. This one has "back gate at Dachau" written on the back.

    As far as I know, Goering was there by himself as he was under house arrest. He fled with the SS commanders the night before the Americans arrived.

  • Contact the War Department and get all your dad's military records.You will want official proof he was there.
    If possible get documentation Goerring was there too. Also search old photo's of Goerring, look for one where he is wearing the dagger.

    If you can prove it was actually his...you have something very valuable.

    Don't overlook military museums as potential buyers, but private collectors will pay more if you can provide provenance.

    Sniff around, but Bud, I'd keep it.

  • I visited Dachau in 1983. It was a moving experience... I don't remember a gate like the one in your pic; all I recall is metalwork: "Arbeit macht frei" or something like that, over the front gate. Did Goering have any staff officers with him, or was the the only Luftwaffe officer there? Very cool story.

  • @buddly47 - @buddly47 - Sorry, but I'm not for sure what division he was in, but I think it was 40-something so it might just be the 42nd and that does sound right. Really how cool!!!! My uncles name was Allen Asay, and he was over six foot, tall lean and an enlisted man. I dunno if that helps any. I wish I knew  more about him, but I barely know anything about my own grampa, he didn't keep very good records of what he did in WWII. But I do know for certain that my grampa was apart of Operation Varsity and made a Glider landing.

  • absolutely incredible story!!! what a historical relic!!! keep it!!

  • @Xx_IWannaWWIIRomance_xX - If he was in the 42nd I might even have a picture of him. Dad took a bunch of pictures and I have them in an old, old scrapbook.

  • @NightCometh - I still have it!

  • @Xx_IWannaWWIIRomance_xX - Two divisions of the US Seventh Army, the 42nd Rainbow Division and the 45th Thunderbird Division, participated in the liberation, while the 20th Armored Division provided support. Dad was in the 42nd, any idea which division your uncle was in? It's pretty cool that they were both there at the liberation!

  • Amazing!  I would keep it!!!

  • WOW, that's so neat to hear! What an amazing piece of history you have in your midst. So glad you shared this with me!

    My uncle, my grampa's brother, also liberated Dachau, he said he was to guard like three hundred German POW's along with a few others, but when he turned around it was just him and his rifle. He told me, "I just tried to look as though as possible." LOL, he could have told the story so much better than I can. 

  • This must be the only post I missed when looking through your blog and it is one of the most interesting!
    That is a piece of history. Oh the the possibilities.
    I have studied a lot about WWII, I love  history.There is a WWII airshow here in Reading every year,I usually go to the USO dance,to watch the old timers swing dance,

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  • As I read this, it is all so familiar.  This is where we were dad.  So many times I wanted to go to Dachau, but I just didn't find the time.  The stories of this place among the German community are unbelievable. 

    It's so strange to look at the beautiful country and the friendly people as having these horrible places in them.  The Germany Army and Air Force that I met were unbelievable.  I even worked with a 2LT in the German Guard.  OK, he was an ass, but that's neither here nor there.  I did make it to Flossenberg Castle, and right up the road was another concentration camp, same name.  It was small, and very gated for no trespassing.  This was 20 minutes from my home. 

    If no one wants the dagger, we will take it. 

  • @ilsurvive - May visions of sugarplums dance in your head crazy lady X's&O's Jamie.

  • their ^^^^  Ooopsie

  • @buddly47 -   Ha!  Shhh!

    I am climbing into bed now.....I just got the 'alert' call.....from Jay's friend's wife.....they are on there way home.  That means that it is time for me to cozy in and not be available, and off on my own agenda....and let HIM deal with his choices; no?  *runs to bed*

  • @Saadias_World - Already sent out a few e-mails.Just checkin' around?

  • @ilsurvive - You're secret is safe with me,I like history too,Crazy girl.

  • I am absolutely and completely enthralled with this......

    Anything and everything Holocaust related is a passion of mine....I'm not Jewish, but the subject...the History.....and our response (America's)....is soooo important to me.....and my favorite thing to learn about.  Crazy girl; I am.  Shhhh....don't tell them that I like History, okay?

    "The Holocaust" was the BEST course I ever took in college, and meeting Elie Wiesel by him doing a presentation at my school....has stayed with me forever.  My adoptive mom....her uncles were Nazis....3 of them.....fought for Hitler's army..... THIS was the best part of learning that I was adopted....learning that.....thankfully I am not blood related to these people....but I grew up having it ingrained in me that that was something I should feel proud of.....when I learned I was adopted and not related to these people at all.......I became interested in the history.....and damnit, I am thankful that I am not......I made it my goal to learn all that I could....and it disgusts me.  Atrocious.....and dispicable.

    We...America.....weren't so sporty when it came to Jewish people either then...until it suited us.  sick times.

  • That is an amazing story and you should keep it.  It will mean so much to generations of yoru family.

  • That's so cool, Bud!  I would hold on to it--forget about selling it to a serious collector!

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